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		<title>By: dl</title>
		<link>https://matttodd.ca/?p=319&#038;cpage=1#comment-386</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy a $20,000 house in Manitoba town, get a free golf cart to drive around

Town that banned bags touts golf carts 

Kathryn Young, CanWest News Service
Published: Thursday, August 23, 2007 

The tiny town in northern Manitoba that was first in Canada to ban
plastic shopping bags is now turning its attention to gas-powered
vehicles. 

Leaf Rapids Mayor Ed Charrier wants residents to drive electric golf
carts around town instead. &#8220;Why would you start &lt;b style=&quot;color:black;background-color:#ffff66&quot;&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; vehicle for a two-
second ride uptown?&#8221; asked Charrier, who plans to buy his own cart
next spring. &#8220;Jump in a golf cart.&#8221; 

While he doesn&#8217;t plan to ban gas-powered automobiles, he will promote
energy-saving golf carts. The town of 600 people is only about three
kilometres from end to end, with homes, shopping, parks and the lake
connected by a network of trails. 

&#8220;You could take a golf cart on them, cruise around all over and start
cutting down on greenhouse gases,&#8221; said Charrier, who drives a Ford
half-ton pickup on the 215-kilometre trips into Thompson, the nearest
town. 

As an incentive, the town will offer a free golf cart with each of 66&lt;br /&gt;
houses that the town bought last March, fixed up and put on the&lt;br /&gt;
market. (The homes have stood empty since 2002 when the local mine&lt;br /&gt;
closed.) 

full article: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=148eb4..&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=148eb4..&lt;/a&gt;. 

or &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2l4wn4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2l4wn4&lt;/a&gt;

FYI:  a really interesting video to watch is:  &#8220;who killed the electric car&#8221;  it&#8217;s at the video store -thrift and johnston</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy a $20,000 house in Manitoba town, get a free golf cart to drive around</p>
<p>Town that banned bags touts golf carts </p>
<p>Kathryn Young, CanWest News Service<br />
Published: Thursday, August 23, 2007 </p>
<p>The tiny town in northern Manitoba that was first in Canada to ban<br />
plastic shopping bags is now turning its attention to gas-powered<br />
vehicles. </p>
<p>Leaf Rapids Mayor Ed Charrier wants residents to drive electric golf<br />
carts around town instead. &#8220;Why would you start <b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">your</b> vehicle for a two-<br />
second ride uptown?&#8221; asked Charrier, who plans to buy his own cart<br />
next spring. &#8220;Jump in a golf cart.&#8221; </p>
<p>While he doesn&#8217;t plan to ban gas-powered automobiles, he will promote<br />
energy-saving golf carts. The town of 600 people is only about three<br />
kilometres from end to end, with homes, shopping, parks and the lake<br />
connected by a network of trails. </p>
<p>&#8220;You could take a golf cart on them, cruise around all over and start<br />
cutting down on greenhouse gases,&#8221; said Charrier, who drives a Ford<br />
half-ton pickup on the 215-kilometre trips into Thompson, the nearest<br />
town. </p>
<p>As an incentive, the town will offer a free golf cart with each of 66<br />
houses that the town bought last March, fixed up and put on the<br />
market. (The homes have stood empty since 2002 when the local mine<br />
closed.) </p>
<p>full article: <a href="http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=148eb4.." rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=148eb4..</a>. </p>
<p>or <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2l4wn4" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2l4wn4</a></p>
<p>FYI:  a really interesting video to watch is:  &#8220;who killed the electric car&#8221;  it&#8217;s at the video store -thrift and johnston</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Sandstrom</title>
		<link>https://matttodd.ca/?p=319&#038;cpage=1#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Sandstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Todd,,great fiction….’zooom, zoom, zom, zo,..zzzzz. Sorry,I just got out of the dream…If you snooze you lose’?

All kidding aside. Toyota have hybrids…they are so enviro-friendly and economical and foremost quiet so ..speak to them up on King George Highway &amp; 148th Str. and ask them to sponsor a fleet of vans…they might like the idea?

&lt;b&gt;Your&lt;/b&gt; idea is as lope sided and weird and irrelevant as the idea, once upon the time held by and strongly promoted by a former Mayor of White Rock who insisted the Burlington Railroad Santa Fe and AMTRAK should ’stop and go’ at our White Rock Museum and this supposedly to great benefits for the residents and merchants of White Rock, BC.

&lt;b&gt;Your&lt;/b&gt; fresh thoughts of ‘utopia’ will amuse &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; fellow councilors and serve as a great wake up call to those sleeping at the switch.

But still , please do go ahead..our city has funds available and might as well be a little ‘ loose with the purse’ and grant the ‘experiment’ you propose.

Yes, allocate means $25,000.00 for a pilot project, alternatively start to visit [Google - Europe] and the USA for ‘free research of pilot projects already implemented and in the works.

Maybe you can hire a consultant to hold the reins?

My webpage &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WhiteRockReporter.com&lt;/a&gt; contains content with regards to electric cars made in Canada!! [If Quebec still count as Canadian official province].

Consider:
Drivers needed:
Competence:
Driver Class 4 License with no infractions [to be able to commercially transport and charge fee/token for rides.

Further Insurance:
liabilities and the City’s obligations and liability performance towards ‘claimants’.

Pending &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; fee as proposed to be a ‘token ride up and a token ride down to the seaside I think CEO and the City as a whole would lose and parking lots would be less frequented if not empty [almost].

Entrepreneurship spirit and privatization are fine concepts to be stimulated, but won’t work in this case…or…’correct me if I am wrong’.

I have been observing the White Rock ‘cow’ over the past 15 years [i.e. the parking revenue cow] and like any business it needs serious management at the helm.
Not ticket conductors but people with a vision of ‘how to truly find a solution to the parking challenges for both tourist, residents and the city of White Rock itself.
Imagine how attractive it would be for a ’senior’ elderly or handicapped person to plunk a loony into a bus till and ride down for a buck to see the seaside once a week, at least. Affordable!

How safe it would be for children, kids and adults as well to just take the ‘token ride from uptown to seaside and perhaps the ride would go the ‘ring road’ and serve more than tipsy or sober restaurant visitors at late hours or early mornings?

[Have you noticed, by the way, mornings are all ‘dried up’ on the Marine drive West beach].

No way for a tourist to go have coffee for a breakfast before 8.30 AM [any day!!]. Shameful lack of service on the part of those who could offer just that; food in the morning.

How is White Rock going to transform itself to become a ‘tourist destination’ when so many nice places are not open during hours when tourists and other visitors are ‘moving about’ our neighborhoods?

ONE HAS TO TRAVEL NORTH INTO SOUTH SURREY AND HIT ‘Tom Horton’ or ABC…for some nutrition prior to sightseeing White Rock, the bird life, the eel grass and the pier and the totems and the historic museum and all the garbage ’stacked on the sidewalks’ at the most weird hours [that’s another ’sermon’ I rest my case.

Please Matt &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; fresh and ingenious ideas and ‘discoveries’ that may benefit our City and its visitors and residents are ‘exciting’ because with two exceptions you are seemingly the only one who ventures outside the box and still serving on Council.

I would hate see you go. Scrub the lead you have taken in the Spirited Square…rest &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; case and spend the money, and I repeat, &#039;on something that truly would benefit our community and not serve as only ‘garnish on the plum cake’ in the process of occupying a committee and aggravating the constituency&#039; of yours.

Be a pal to both young and older…go big or go home and ask the Province to let the City of White Rock collect and keep and do what it wishes to do with half a million dollars or more.

Matt , I realize it is difficult to soar like an eagle when you have to depend and work with turkeys [the Provincial government… Campbell &amp; Co]….
I’ve been there and done that and have no hopes you will make a mark…but you never know. Miracles happen.

Bless &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; fortitude, but please don’t bring in to debate any more ‘castles of nirvana’. Our ‘White Rock Sandcastle Competition’ is not until August 3rd this year.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Best of luck and regards.
&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:JohanPublisher@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JohanPublisher@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;
Read: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Todd,,great fiction….’zooom, zoom, zom, zo,..zzzzz. Sorry,I just got out of the dream…If you snooze you lose’?</p>
<p>All kidding aside. Toyota have hybrids…they are so enviro-friendly and economical and foremost quiet so ..speak to them up on King George Highway &#38; 148th Str. and ask them to sponsor a fleet of vans…they might like the idea?</p>
<p><b>Your</b> idea is as lope sided and weird and irrelevant as the idea, once upon the time held by and strongly promoted by a former Mayor of White Rock who insisted the Burlington Railroad Santa Fe and AMTRAK should ’stop and go’ at our White Rock Museum and this supposedly to great benefits for the residents and merchants of White Rock, BC.</p>
<p><b>Your</b> fresh thoughts of ‘utopia’ will amuse <b>your</b> fellow councilors and serve as a great wake up call to those sleeping at the switch.</p>
<p>But still , please do go ahead..our city has funds available and might as well be a little ‘ loose with the purse’ and grant the ‘experiment’ you propose.</p>
<p>Yes, allocate means $25,000.00 for a pilot project, alternatively start to visit [Google - Europe] and the USA for ‘free research of pilot projects already implemented and in the works.</p>
<p>Maybe you can hire a consultant to hold the reins?</p>
<p>My webpage <a href="http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com" rel="nofollow">WhiteRockReporter.com</a> contains content with regards to electric cars made in Canada!! [If Quebec still count as Canadian official province].</p>
<p>Consider:<br />
Drivers needed:<br />
Competence:<br />
Driver Class 4 License with no infractions [to be able to commercially transport and charge fee/token for rides.</p>
<p>Further Insurance:<br />
liabilities and the City’s obligations and liability performance towards ‘claimants’.</p>
<p>Pending <b>your</b> fee as proposed to be a ‘token ride up and a token ride down to the seaside I think CEO and the City as a whole would lose and parking lots would be less frequented if not empty [almost].</p>
<p>Entrepreneurship spirit and privatization are fine concepts to be stimulated, but won’t work in this case…or…’correct me if I am wrong’.</p>
<p>I have been observing the White Rock ‘cow’ over the past 15 years [i.e. the parking revenue cow] and like any business it needs serious management at the helm.<br />
Not ticket conductors but people with a vision of ‘how to truly find a solution to the parking challenges for both tourist, residents and the city of White Rock itself.<br />
Imagine how attractive it would be for a ’senior’ elderly or handicapped person to plunk a loony into a bus till and ride down for a buck to see the seaside once a week, at least. Affordable!</p>
<p>How safe it would be for children, kids and adults as well to just take the ‘token ride from uptown to seaside and perhaps the ride would go the ‘ring road’ and serve more than tipsy or sober restaurant visitors at late hours or early mornings?</p>
<p>[Have you noticed, by the way, mornings are all ‘dried up’ on the Marine drive West beach].</p>
<p>No way for a tourist to go have coffee for a breakfast before 8.30 AM [any day!!]. Shameful lack of service on the part of those who could offer just that; food in the morning.</p>
<p>How is White Rock going to transform itself to become a ‘tourist destination’ when so many nice places are not open during hours when tourists and other visitors are ‘moving about’ our neighborhoods?</p>
<p>ONE HAS TO TRAVEL NORTH INTO SOUTH SURREY AND HIT ‘Tom Horton’ or ABC…for some nutrition prior to sightseeing White Rock, the bird life, the eel grass and the pier and the totems and the historic museum and all the garbage ’stacked on the sidewalks’ at the most weird hours [that’s another ’sermon’ I rest my case.</p>
<p>Please Matt <b>your</b> fresh and ingenious ideas and ‘discoveries’ that may benefit our City and its visitors and residents are ‘exciting’ because with two exceptions you are seemingly the only one who ventures outside the box and still serving on Council.</p>
<p>I would hate see you go. Scrub the lead you have taken in the Spirited Square…rest <b>your</b> case and spend the money, and I repeat, 'on something that truly would benefit our community and not serve as only ‘garnish on the plum cake’ in the process of occupying a committee and aggravating the constituency' of yours.</p>
<p>Be a pal to both young and older…go big or go home and ask the Province to let the City of White Rock collect and keep and do what it wishes to do with half a million dollars or more.</p>
<p>Matt , I realize it is difficult to soar like an eagle when you have to depend and work with turkeys [the Provincial government… Campbell &#38; Co]….<br />
I’ve been there and done that and have no hopes you will make a mark…but you never know. Miracles happen.</p>
<p>Bless <b>your</b> fortitude, but please don’t bring in to debate any more ‘castles of nirvana’. Our ‘White Rock Sandcastle Competition’ is not until August 3rd this year.<br />
Correct me if I am wrong.<br />
Best of luck and regards.<br />
<a href="mailto:JohanPublisher@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">JohanPublisher@gmail.com</a><br />
Read: <a href="http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.WhiteRockReporter.com</a></p>
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