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		<title>By: ld</title>
		<link>https://matttodd.ca/?p=805&#038;cpage=1#comment-1079</link>
		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well ok then - just because the CPR has publically withdrawn their support, does not mean the phone tree has been cut down....if the 4 areas were met with the correct weights based in legal argument, and the judge decides to remove him from council, and a by-election is called... do what you need to do.

you know what I am doing.... oh and by the way....I&#039;m donating a copy of the digitally recorded -word for word-, written transcript of the entire case to the White Rock Library for their reference section.  This is the 3rd time in BC that election fraud has been challenged under section 152 and it&#039;s always nice to be able to have a piece of local history available locally for anyone who may be interested in persuing a legal career in the future.  Perhaps this will inspire youth or the young at heart, in this city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well ok then &#8211; just because the CPR has publically withdrawn their support, does not mean the phone tree has been cut down&#8230;.if the 4 areas were met with the correct weights based in legal argument, and the judge decides to remove him from council, and a by-election is called&#8230; do what you need to do.</p>
<p>you know what I am doing&#8230;. oh and by the way&#8230;.I&#8217;m donating a copy of the digitally recorded -word for word-, written transcript of the entire case to the White Rock Library for their reference section.  This is the 3rd time in BC that election fraud has been challenged under section 152 and it&#8217;s always nice to be able to have a piece of local history available locally for anyone who may be interested in persuing a legal career in the future.  Perhaps this will inspire youth or the young at heart, in this city.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Todd</title>
		<link>https://matttodd.ca/?p=805&#038;cpage=1#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to continue to allow Coleridge to abuse the confidentiality rules to cover up his lies. I assumed he would either learn from his mistakes or the stories would find their way out into public and people would be willing to recognize the truth of his character. But neither has happened. I say, it&#039;s time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to continue to allow Coleridge to abuse the confidentiality rules to cover up his lies. I assumed he would either learn from his mistakes or the stories would find their way out into public and people would be willing to recognize the truth of his character. But neither has happened. I say, it&#8217;s time.</p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
		<link>https://matttodd.ca/?p=805&#038;cpage=1#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude- seriously - you&#039;re scaring me now because there may be things which have been disclosed in this post which may not be appropriate due to the time/disclosure thingy. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, RETHINK...what you have written and the ramifications of words. 

My wish for you is still the same, and I respect your decision not to run for council again. No harm no foul. Your future happiness is what is important. You couldn’t pay me enough to run for office in White Rock or anywhere else after this experience.  I am rethinking a lot of things.

I do not pretend to know about whatever documents you have signed off on, regarding disclosure and time periods-from previous roles I have held, I have signed off on things which have required abstaining for specific time periods- participating in activities due to the nature of the business. 

I don&#039;t disagree with some of the sentiments, I too contacted a member of the CPR executive during the campaign before the election, and asked that they conduct a third party investigation VIA UBC or SFU computer science dept, to verify for themselves, the IP address thingy, like what you initiated and proved via the BCIT analysis,  that the IP addresses were the same. As we found out in court, first hand from the horses mouth, the CPR was aware of the situation and chose to believe verbal words over third party evidence.  Insert swear words here for what I really think!

This caused me great distress because they (the CPR) were aware of the problem and chose to pay for advertisements in the press celebrating the win(s) of the candidates they endorsed. The end result was more important than the journey, the integrity, and the ethics, or our future. Insert swear words here for what I really think!

Perhaps I&#039;m just not old enough to know better and shut up; or not experienced enough to shut up, and disbelieve that that laws exist to protect the voters from fraud, or not life experienced enough to think that there should be some sort of threshold towards election conduct as per the law, which should be followed to protect us, the voters.... whatever! This was very wrong - the whole situation.

Never again, civically, provincially, or federally anywhere in Canada. How can we as Canadians proudly hold our heads up when other countries knock on our door for lessons on fair democratic process? ya I&#039;m looking at the whole forest, not just the trees here.

What caused me the most distress from the court testimony, was that &quot;evidence&quot; to support a real estate slate was created first based upon innuendo / false pretenses, then there was a review of who was running for council, then the finger pointing to whoever might fit the bill based upon the false accusations, in order to package the &quot;whole program&quot; of a real estate slate in a &quot;marketing program&quot;... as a marketer/pr person this was insulting because we have organizational/ethical boundaries which we must adhere to and this totally crossed those boundaries.  I was stunned by what I heard in court, I mean absolutely silenced! by the audacity.

What I learned was: 
never sign your name to any public document indicating you have attended a public meeting because you will be implicated in something which may or may not reflect your opinion or stand on the subject matter of the meeting.   How sad is that – someone may use against you, you attendance of a public meeting to portray a picture which may not be accurate of your thoughts or beliefs.

I returned from Europe at the beginning of Nov, after learning about my great grandfather in WW1 and what/why he did/sacrificed; and my grandfather/grandmother in WW2, and what they did/what  they sacrificed, I was very sensitive to liberty and democracy upon returning to White Rpcl tp find this sh#t going on in little old white rock!!!!

Maybe it&#039;s just the brandy speaking but the whole situation is f@cked up. I still stand by my assumption: never again, civically, provincially or federally anywhere in Canada. We are Canadians and the whole world deserves better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude- seriously &#8211; you&#8217;re scaring me now because there may be things which have been disclosed in this post which may not be appropriate due to the time/disclosure thingy. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, RETHINK&#8230;what you have written and the ramifications of words. </p>
<p>My wish for you is still the same, and I respect your decision not to run for council again. No harm no foul. Your future happiness is what is important. You couldn’t pay me enough to run for office in White Rock or anywhere else after this experience.  I am rethinking a lot of things.</p>
<p>I do not pretend to know about whatever documents you have signed off on, regarding disclosure and time periods-from previous roles I have held, I have signed off on things which have required abstaining for specific time periods- participating in activities due to the nature of the business. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with some of the sentiments, I too contacted a member of the CPR executive during the campaign before the election, and asked that they conduct a third party investigation VIA UBC or SFU computer science dept, to verify for themselves, the IP address thingy, like what you initiated and proved via the BCIT analysis,  that the IP addresses were the same. As we found out in court, first hand from the horses mouth, the CPR was aware of the situation and chose to believe verbal words over third party evidence.  Insert swear words here for what I really think!</p>
<p>This caused me great distress because they (the CPR) were aware of the problem and chose to pay for advertisements in the press celebrating the win(s) of the candidates they endorsed. The end result was more important than the journey, the integrity, and the ethics, or our future. Insert swear words here for what I really think!</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m just not old enough to know better and shut up; or not experienced enough to shut up, and disbelieve that that laws exist to protect the voters from fraud, or not life experienced enough to think that there should be some sort of threshold towards election conduct as per the law, which should be followed to protect us, the voters&#8230;. whatever! This was very wrong &#8211; the whole situation.</p>
<p>Never again, civically, provincially, or federally anywhere in Canada. How can we as Canadians proudly hold our heads up when other countries knock on our door for lessons on fair democratic process? ya I&#8217;m looking at the whole forest, not just the trees here.</p>
<p>What caused me the most distress from the court testimony, was that &#8220;evidence&#8221; to support a real estate slate was created first based upon innuendo / false pretenses, then there was a review of who was running for council, then the finger pointing to whoever might fit the bill based upon the false accusations, in order to package the &#8220;whole program&#8221; of a real estate slate in a &#8220;marketing program&#8221;&#8230; as a marketer/pr person this was insulting because we have organizational/ethical boundaries which we must adhere to and this totally crossed those boundaries.  I was stunned by what I heard in court, I mean absolutely silenced! by the audacity.</p>
<p>What I learned was:<br />
never sign your name to any public document indicating you have attended a public meeting because you will be implicated in something which may or may not reflect your opinion or stand on the subject matter of the meeting.   How sad is that – someone may use against you, you attendance of a public meeting to portray a picture which may not be accurate of your thoughts or beliefs.</p>
<p>I returned from Europe at the beginning of Nov, after learning about my great grandfather in WW1 and what/why he did/sacrificed; and my grandfather/grandmother in WW2, and what they did/what  they sacrificed, I was very sensitive to liberty and democracy upon returning to White Rpcl tp find this sh#t going on in little old white rock!!!!</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just the brandy speaking but the whole situation is f@cked up. I still stand by my assumption: never again, civically, provincially or federally anywhere in Canada. We are Canadians and the whole world deserves better than this.</p>
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